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Thu Sep 25 2008, 12:11am

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I'm just curious if the betting shop is going okay?

We're into Football season here in the US and the guys are anxious to place some bets. LOL

That's American Football... not what us Yanks call Soccer. =)




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Fri Sep 26 2008, 10:23pm
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Jets to win the superbowl and Derby (come on you rams) to win the FA Cup

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Sat Sep 27 2008, 02:34pm
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Great result today for Liverpool (Sorry Si) Progressiis slow but it is still progressing.

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these things happen when the referee is wearing the same colour jersey as your team.... ;)

get speeding up with the progress though Father B!
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I know what you mean Si, we had a referee like that at Orrell, he was french but wearing a coventry jersey. No wonder Spec Savers sponsor the welsh rugby refs!


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Right ho then chaps (and any chapesses)

I envisage an event which has a number of outcomes each with odds

For example a football match will have

win 7-2
draw 5-4
loose 13-6

or a race

Dirty Dancing 2-3
Nightmare in Everest 5-4
Bishops Walk 10-1
Snuggle Down 20-1
Quick Witted 25-1
Einsteins Donkey 33-1

Admin sets up the elements of the event like above then when the event is over they then enter the order. Presumably we need to pay out on the first place (the general idea of betting I suppose)

I sppose at some point someone will want to put on place bets so it will be a fraction of the winning odds (33%?)

I'm not a very frequent visitor of betting shops so some ideas would be appreciated.

So far got the main admin side done and the logo! Part way through the games side (which is why I need help!)


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Sun Sep 28 2008, 06:24pm
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essentially this could be done as "races" for each event

instead of different horses (for example) if it is a team event then the three outcomes are win, lose, or draw.

Admin selects whether event was won, lost, or drawn after the event and bets are paid out

for a race, the list of possible outcomes is the names of the horses (for example) and after the race, admin selects winning horse and bets are paid out

this could also be done for other bets....

first goalscorer - a simple list of all the players and the admin then selects the player who scored first and bets are paid out

for correct result (more in depth than a simple win lose or draw situation) then you put a list of possible results as the outcome, and then select the correct one afterwards and bets are paid out

in the result page, there should be an option to refund all bets too - if a race was cancelled, or if nobody scored at all, for instance

the odds should be pretty simple to include to

next to each outcome box on the admin config page you have two boxes, with a multiplier and a base number

so the list could look like this

Box 1 - Win
Box 2 - 10
Box 3 - 1

That would be a bet to win with the odds of 10 to 1

the winning bet would be worked out as stake divided by base multiplied by multiplier plus stake

so, a five gold stake, divided by one multiplied by ten and then plus five would be a 55 gold win

if odds were 5:2 then it would be five gold divided by two multiplied by five and then plus five so a 17.5 win

I would see it working as perhaps being able to have multiple bets on the same event...

Admin creates event - admin creates multiple (or just one) bet for that event

Users select event and are shown a page of bets for that event

Admin inputs possible outcomes, along with odds for each outcome

User selects amount of gold to stake on each outcome (can bet on multiple outcomes)

Admin selects correct outcome, or whether to cancel all bets

System takes users stakes and uses the formula above to work out the amount to pay out to them or to refund users

Event is marked as closed in main betting shop page and removed from list of available bets, perhaps moved to a page of "past bets"
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Sun Sep 28 2008, 07:52pm
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Okay...I'm confustigated....lol

Let 's say it's American Football

Giants vs. Patriots

Giants are 3-2

Pats are 2-1

I'm making up the odds as I go along....

Giants beat Packers...

The admin (or userclass set to administer) should check off Giants as winner right? All bets on the Packers would be null and not counted so there would be no payout.

Or....(in my site's case) we take professional wrestling...

Cena 2-1
HHH 3-2
Kane 4-1
Jericho 5-1

We should then just put a check in a box next to the winner of that match...that winner would then pay out.

However, on the same side....most wrestling PPVs have multiple matches....would we be able to separate them and then check off the winners of each match?

Same goes for sports....using American Football again as an example...say there are 8 games going on this Sunday...we should have the option to set all 8 games in one shot and then check off the winner button for the games winners....

In all honesty....I don't see too many sites doing a lot with Horse racing, so giving Winner, Place, and Show as a major point wouldn't help for a good chunk of the people that want to use it...since there wouldn't be a Winner, Place, and Show for "most" of the things bet on.

One more thing to keep in mind is like Simon says (ha...that's funny) sometimes you'll have to have a "cancel bets" for a specific match or game.

For instance using pro wrestling as an example...if the match ends in a no contest or a disqualification then the bet money should just go back.

Hoping two sets of eyes here help you out. The betting manager plugin is one of the most anticipated add ons for gold that we're waiting for.
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Sun Sep 28 2008, 08:09pm
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yeah, admin creates "events" which can be anything - separate fights, separate games, even if they are on the same day

then admin creates different bets for that event - win, lose, draw, or team, draw, other team, or whatever outcome they want

i think the simplest way to do it would be to have another check box in the row I mentioned above for "Final Outcome won?" and have admin tick that box - if any of those boxes are ticked for any outcome, then the plugin detects this and pays out and closes the betting

a "suspend betting" button would be good too, so people can't bet after the event but before an admin has input the result - or maybe like in the squad plugin I have a timeout function to suspend betting when the event starts

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Oh yea...that last part is a definite necessity. Maybe a way to select when betting is to be closed? The only confusion we'll have is will it be server time, user time, or site time?
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